India & Global Left, 15/11/2025
Transcribed and summarized by Tlaxcala
Wilkerson explains why the U.S. is escalating against Venezuela, how close Washington is to a possible military intervention, and why he believes Israel is playing a driving role behind Trump’s Venezuela strategy. We also explore bigger geopolitical questions: • Does the U.S. have a real grand strategy after losing the tariff war to China? • Will NATO retreat from its failing venture in Ukraine? • What does Syria’s effective re-absorption into the U.S. Middle East architecture mean for the region? • Is Washington reacting to global shifts—or blindly escalating on multiple fronts? If you want a deep dive into U.S. empire, great-power competition, and the hidden actors shaping today’s conflicts, this interview with Colonel Wilkerson is essential.
The episode opens with a welcome to viewers and an
appeal to support the channel through subscriptions, membership, or donations.
The host then introduces the evening’s guest, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, a
retired U.S. Army Colonel and former Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin
Powell. The conversation begins with an overview of U.S. escalation against Venezuela,
including military buildups in the Caribbean, operations originating from
Puerto Rico under the banner of a so-called "war on narco-terrorism,"
and intensified propaganda efforts. Figures in the Venezuelan opposition—such
as María Corina Machado—are described as promising Venezuelan assets to U.S.
corporations, while President Trump has been explicit in seeking regime change
in Caracas. The central question posed to Wilkerson is how far Washington is
willing to go.
Wilkerson responds by recalling his experience during
the George W. Bush administration, noting that many of the practices of that
era are now being repeated with even greater depth, breadth, and illegality. He
invokes the legacy of the Nuremberg Trials, reminding viewers that their
primary purpose—articulated by Justice Jackson—was to stop wars of aggression.
This principle formed the moral foundation for the UN and the Geneva
Conventions of 1948, which sought to impose standards on the conduct of war and
establish international criminal law. According to Wilkerson, the United States
is now dismantling, "peg by peg, thread by thread," the entire
post-World War II international legal framework. He argues that the U.S. has
become the world’s chief perpetrator of wars of aggression, with Venezuela
being the most recent target.
Wilkerson explains that U.S. covert involvement in Venezuela
escalated in 2016 when Trump signed a presidential finding authorizing CIA
operations on the ground. Obama’s 2015 declaration that Venezuela was a
national security threat to the United States also paved the way for sanctions
and interventionist policies. Wilkerson stresses that both Democratic and
Republican administrations have followed the same trajectory. He highlights a
troubling trend: the creation of new legal rationales by the Department of
Justice to justify extrajudicial killings at sea—killings that have already
claimed dozens of lives, including impoverished fishermen misidentified as
smugglers. People in Colombia and Venezuela are now reportedly afraid to fish
for fear of being killed. This, Wilkerson says, represents the destruction of
international law and due process.
Turning to the possibility of a military intervention,
Wilkerson describes the situation as deeply alarming. He asserts that Israel is
heavily involved in U.S. intelligence operations related to Venezuela, having
participated since at least 2016. According to him, Trump receives misleading
or manipulated intelligence not from official U.S. agencies but from
intermediaries such as Laura Loomer and figures connected to the Israeli
intelligence apparatus, financed by actors within the Venezuelan opposition. In
Wilkerson’s view, this intelligence pipeline circumvents the established
intelligence community, enabling operations driven by external agendas.
He elaborates on the rise of U.S. Special Operations
Command (SOCOM), which has grown into a powerful, semi-autonomous military
structure closely integrated with the CIA. This arrangement allows the CIA to
conduct direct-action operations while avoiding congressional oversight, since
the military technically carries out the actions. Wilkerson provides historical
examples—from Mogadishu to Afghanistan and Iraq—where
Special Operations forces conducted unilateral missions without the knowledge
of regional commanders. He argues that similar dynamics are now visible in
Venezuela, where special operations personnel aboard a “mother ship” off the
Venezuelan coast conduct clandestine missions without the awareness or approval
of the conventional military command at Southern Command. This, he says,
represents an “unbelievable” and dangerous breakdown of civilian and military
oversight.
The host notes that Venezuela’s military is extremely politicized and integrated into the Bolivarian process—unlike Chile’s in 1973—making a coup far more difficult. Wilkerson agrees, stating that the Venezuelan armed forces have remained loyal and that U.S. efforts to bribe or infiltrate them have likely failed. Any intervention would face not only a unified Venezuelan military but also widespread popular opposition to U.S. involvement. Wilkerson predicts that a U.S. attempt at regime change in Venezuela would result in a prolonged guerrilla war that the United States would eventually lose, inflicting enormous suffering on Venezuelans and possibly Colombians as well.
The interview then shifts to China. Wilkerson
argues that the United States has “no strategy whatsoever” regarding China.
What exists instead is a collection of individuals—citing Steve Bannon and
others—who believe they have a strategy but whose ideas are incoherent. China,
he says, is advancing globally not through aggression but by moving into spaces
left vacant by catastrophic U.S. policy failures, especially in Latin America.
Countries are turning toward China because Washington has alienated them. In
Wilkerson’s view, Trump badly misjudged his own diplomatic encounters with
Chinese President Xi Jinping, believing meetings went well when Xi was in fact
outmaneuvering him.
Wilkerson goes on to discuss Europe, predicting
that current governments will be swept away within eighteen months due to
unsustainable military commitments and economic pressures. As European
populations realize that devoting 5% of GDP to NATO means sacrificing social
services, public education, agriculture, and healthcare, they will demand
political change. The result could be a return to pre-World War II
fragmentation or the emergence of a new European security framework—potentially
including Russia, though this would be extremely difficult after years of
hostility and warfare.
The conversation turns to Ukraine, where
Wilkerson argues that Trump is receiving dangerously misleading
information—primarily from Senator Lindsey Graham. Graham and his associates,
Wilkerson says, are telling Trump that the goal is to “bleed Russia” at any
cost, even at the expense of Ukrainian lives and territory. They insist that
sustained pressure will eventually lead to Putin’s collapse, a claim Wilkerson
rejects. He asserts that Putin is actually under pressure from the far right,
which demands a more aggressive prosecution of the war and even the destruction
of Ukraine if necessary. Wilkerson emphasizes that the United States is the
only power capable of halting the conflict, yet it refuses to do so. He warns
that Ukraine harbors over 200,000 hardcore far-right militants—Bandera adherents—who
remain behind the lines conserving their strength and who will dominate
whatever is left of Ukraine after the war, ensuring continued instability.
Next, the discussion addresses Syria. Wilkerson
observes a major geopolitical shift: Syria is being reintegrated into the
U.S.–Israeli–Gulf strategic architecture. Key assets such as the port of Tartus
are being reassigned to UAE interests, and areas previously under
Russian agreements are being reorganized. Foreign fighters with takfiri
ideologies are reportedly being redeployed to the Lebanese border to confront
Hezbollah. Al-Sharaa is being courted by figures like Tom Barrack and welcomed
in Washington-aligned circles. This suggests, Wilkerson argues, a broader
strategy aimed at dismantling the “Axis of Resistance.” He believes Netanyahu
has struck an understanding with Trump: if Israel takes on Hezbollah and
stabilizes Syria in a direction favorable to U.S. interests, Trump will
confront Iran directly on Israel’s behalf.
Wilkerson considers this extremely dangerous. He
describes discussions in some circles advocating pre-emptive nuclear strikes on
Iran using submarine-launched cruise missiles, with the U.S. providing support
and cover. These strategists imagine rebuilding Israel afterward as a secure
Jewish state, believing that Iran’s destruction would resolve the region’s
strategic problems. Wilkerson fears this thinking could lead to nuclear war. He
also notes cryptic comments suggesting that the Trump administration does not
expect to leave office in three years—either because successors like Vance
would continue the same policies for another eight years or because they
anticipate remaining in power indefinitely.
The interview concludes with a reflection on the
failed attempt in 2021 [assault on the Capitol] to alter the trajectory
of U.S. governance. Wilkerson claims that the failure occurred partly
because the U.S. military did not support those efforts. Today, he warns, there
is a deliberate effort to reshape the military so that it will not resist
similar attempts in the future. The host observes that this amounts to a full
takeover of the state in the manner envisioned by far-right or far-left
movements. Wilkerson ends by expressing deep concern about the direction of
U.S. power and the dangerous path it is carving for the world.
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